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OMG! C 59; O 16; E 10!!!

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You thought the title of my diary referred to poll results? Why, isn't that funny of you. Actually, it's the number of months after their inauguration it would take Presidents Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama or John Edwards to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq. In the case of Senator Clinton the 59 is actually extraordinarily generous, considering it is based on her promise to, conditions allowing, withdraw most U.S. forces from Iraq by the end of 2013.

I'll return to that in a moment, but since I've been able to hijack the attention of at least some you for a brief moment I want to discuss the way we talk politics at dailykos, and how far these discussions get from  the brass tacks of real-world policy and what the candidates will and won't do should they be elected president, and how close they come to the bizarre chimerical world of TMZ, Britney, Paris and Perez.


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